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General Chat / Re: Kit countdown
« on: February 17, 2016, 08:18:49 PM »
Gray Rodent, Thank you for your words,
truly they mean a lot.
 Will post pics of the girls when they are settled.
 Thanks for all your advice to date.

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General Chat / Kit countdown
« on: February 17, 2016, 03:51:32 PM »
Really excited to hear that on Saturday 20th Feb I will become Mum to 2 baby girls  :::grins::
 Got my list of potential names (8 of them) but no decision until I know the girls a little first.
 Getting last bits sorted in their cage  :)
   I'm excited and nervous  :blush2:  really hope I'm going to be a good enough Mum to these two little ones.

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:35:29 PM »
Hi MB30, Sorry missed your post, things a little difficult this week so not as clear thinking as usual.
 I'll be sure to protect my little ones from drafts/heat/sun  :)
 
  Just ordered my lovely Andes mountain backdrop  :::grins::
 
 Followed one of your links and wooden shelves are on the way  :::grins:: I know making my own would be cheaper in terms of £s but bearing in mind I don't have tools and not sure how safe I'd be using them  :blush2: in the end it's safer for Kits and me to go to the professionals.
 
 I have made some fleece items and am pleased with my inventiveness. I bought a shelf stacker from Sainsbury's for £2. It looks like a long 3 step stepladder. I covered it both sides with fleece and secured this on each step at front and back and made sure that the legs were covered too.
I've been careful to do flat seams so there is nothing to attract attention and give them a reason to start chewing though I will be very watchful.
 It does offer another way to get slightly higher up and they'll be able to reach jump ledges from it.
 
 I know you have the same cage I have and I'm concerned about tiny paws getting trapped where there is a gap at one end of the metal pull out tray. Has this been an issue for you? 

  Don't know where my head was putting my email addy  :doh: I have a secondary name and addy I keep just in case, think I was having a Senior moment  ::)
 
 Going to phone tomorrow for a progress report on the Kits  :) and confirm that I'm hoping for 2
  :::grins::

  Once everything is in place I'm hoping to be able to put up photos and get a  ::nod:: or  :noway: before little ones arrive.

 Forgot I have a dehumidifyer, got it in Aldis sale in Nov for use on my camper van so can bring it in to my flat as needed.

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 15, 2016, 11:54:14 AM »
Thanks Grey Rodent  :)

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 14, 2016, 04:32:59 PM »
Hi MB30

   Thanks for the info :~)   I plan on getting two from the same litter so won't need to do the introductions. if down the road the worst happens then I'll split the cage in two.
   So glad that your introduction went well, I had something similar with a rescue cat.
She'd had a terrible time and was very aggressive but she totally fell for a kitten I had and totally acted as his Mum. Sadly he had to be put to sleep and she was completely bereft.
 I took a gamble and got her a kitten, 2 years on they are inseperable and she's much better around people too.
   I have an air conditioner from the last horribly hot summer we had, but will have to look into getting a dehumidifyer as well. I live in Kent though was born in the North and spent some years in Solihull.
  I'll definitely cover the top and back of the cage at least and I will keep watch for signs of chewing.

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 13, 2016, 05:22:37 PM »
Hi Grey Rodent,
 I hadn't thought about them chewing the cat carrier, daft as I'm so aware of them not having plastic!
  I'll get a metal carrier, though not one with plastic coating. I've always avoided the metal carriers because of the lack of privacy. The last thing a sick animal needs is to be seen by everyone, but I'm sure I can put a cover over the carrier while we're waiting to go in to see the vet.

   Wow, what an impressive cage set up! And a lovely Chinchilla, it's funny when animals have their own unusual way of sleeping. I used to have a Border Terrier who liked to sleep on his back with one side against furniture or the wall.

    Sawdust was a mistype, should have been shavings, I wouldn't use sawdust because of potential respirotary issues.

    As far as having 2 Chinchilla I've been talking with my best friend and coupled with what you wrote I'm going to go with my gut feeling when I see the kits.
I'll plan for 2,  when the Kits arrive at the pet shop I will look at them and try to see if there are 2 who look to be more closely bonded, or if there appears to be a loner.
 Fingers crossed I pick a same sex pair as I have heard horror stories around neutering :~( 
  I have had pack/herd animals before who only had me and where fine and I'm sure given the time I have at my disposal there won't be a problem this time either.

    I don't have birds of prey now, once I became wheelchair bound I felt it was unfair to them not to be able to fly the places that they were used too and so they went to live with very dear friends of mine on there 23 acre croft on the Isle of Skye.

     I currently share my home with my MPD/DID community, 4 indoor cats, 3 Ragdoll/Siamese x siblings and a Red Tabby girl, who have never shown any interest in other animals except the Crickets my then elderly Chameleon ate.
That said they will never be left unsupervised with the Chinchilla to be on the safe side.
A Havanese/Maltese x who is training to be my Assistance dog and my Syrian Hamster.
 Once the Chinchilla Kit(s) arrive that will be the family completed. 

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 13, 2016, 12:25:17 PM »
Hi MB30,

  What gorgeous Chinchilla!

 Many thanks for answering my posts, your post is such a help, seeing the cage set up is great and I've a better idea now of what I'm doing.

I had Chinchilla2shop as that's where I got my hyacinth, seagrass mats and chews/toys.
 I'll def be checking out the others too :~)

  I see you have fleece? on top and to the side of your cage, I wanted to have this but was told anything within 6" could be dragged into the cage.
 I am thinking of printing a backdrop of Andes mountains onto cloth and then putting it on a frame 6" away from the bars. This would make a better view for me through the bars and hopefully give some privacy to Chinchilla.
 Instead of a frame 6" off, having seen yours I'm wondering if I could just have it pulled very taut against the bars so there was nothing to get hold off and drag in?

 I forgot to say I have a cat carrier that I would use for vet visits. It is plastic and I clean it after use with a pet safe anti bacterial cleaner and then steam clean.
 I like it because as well as the metal front door it can be unclipped all round so not reaching in for a frightened pet and it has a petting door in the top. Would this be ok for Chinchilla?

 I was wondering where to get a water bottle, so thanks for this advice too.
 
I really appreciate you saying I can drop you a line with queries, despite vast experience of other creatures most of which were situations where I winged it I'm older, wiser and def more aware of potential pitfalls with this expected little one :~)
 It's great having someone in UK too, as you know what is available.
Just finding a Chinchilla to start with has been a major hurdle :~)

  Looking forward to Chinchilla chatting with you :~)  Do you have other pets? Any problems with ChinChilla being afraid of them?

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General Chat / Re: Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 13, 2016, 11:31:03 AM »
Hi Gray Rodent,
Thanks for the welcome and the lovely informative post.
 1) I read a lot about cages (lots of conflicting advice too). I then measured my available space and went for the cage that most seemed to fit the concensus of opinion, offered the most space for the Chinchilla in the space I had available and was a good buy financially. So it's good to read that I did ok.
 The depth of the pan is a problem as I can see that should I need litter they'll have great fun spreading it through the bars.
My hamster did this until I put acetate over the bars on the outside. To her immense annoyance she can't chew it, it keeps her bedding in and I can still see into her home.
  I know they'll chew it, so it will keep needing to be replaced, (and will need to be removed at front to slide tray out for cleaning) but I'm considering putting the equivalent of skirting boards in untreated kiln dried pine on the outside to heighten the pan depth.
  2) Ok thanks for the heads up on this, If they do start chewing at this I'll use wood instead, and replace it long before they've made a dangerous impression on it.
  3) Thanks for the confirmation on this one, I thought it was ok but better to check.
  4) Once I took it out the whole cage looked so much lighter, brighter and airier! Wood will look so much nicer as well.
     I'm using the shelves on the base to provide extra storage for my bits and pieces and the brackets will have extra holes drilled in and be used in my store cupboard to hold a wooden shelf. Waste not, want not :~)
    5 & 6) Thank you so much for these answers. Trying to get this information has been like finding "hens teeth."
 Now I know my Kit will be safe, thank you.
    7) I was so worried about boredom I went a bit (a lot) over the top on trying to provide activity.
        I'll have as you suggested 3 shelves as a maximum to each half of the cage.
   I've got fleece ready but I will be very vigilant for chewing, I know from reading older posts here that just because they don't doesn't mean they never will.
 One of my 3 year old cats has just started to lick my clothes, something she's never done before. So I know behaviour can change with no warning or apparent reason.
   8) Your built in floor sounds amazing, would you mind giving tips on how to do something similar?
     I am concerned about urine as I know it can have serious affects, I'm disabled and sadly aware of how much damage a few missed drops can do to human skin.
 I did wonder about a ceramic "litter tray" with kiln dried pine sawdust in it.
I was thinking of having this on little feet with drainage holes. I could check it several times a day and remove urine soaked sawdust. Any thoughts on this?
   9) Thanks for bottle recommendation. I check all my pets water daily, but thanks for the reminder. Do I need a bottle in each half of the cage if only one resident?
 I made my cats a water feature which circulates the water and has grass area and I've found they drink far more than they used too.
   10) The Hyacinth mat came from a recommended Chinchilla supplier so I'm hoping it's ok. My Hamster likes it, she has a small piece she throws in the air as well as a larger piece she sleeps on.
     11) I will be available to have interaction a lot as with my disability I'm home a lot.
 This was my main consideration and concern when I was thinking initially about having a Chin as a pet.
   The play mountain is for the times when I'm not available to play with.
 I would keep an eye out for signs of damage to any ceramic items I make and be sure that they provided instant access to Chin in case of a problem.
 I did something similar for my Sister when she had pet rats. We had no problems with breakages despite a lot of chewing and they seemed to enjoy their ceramic landscape.
I will take note of your comments though and see how my Kit takes to this.
   12) A lot of the bits I have are small/light enough to be thrown or carried around.
 I have removed a wind chime that was near the cage as I was concerned about it looking like a bird of prey. Not sure how good a Chins vision is, but thought even a shadow could cause distress.
 My cats have never been in contact with a real snake in their lives but were terrified of a rubber one, which is why I've been more aware of potential threats for Kit.
   13) Hay rack is a wooden chew toy ~ a cube with holes in (to small for a head) that I'll stuff hay into.
      Thanks for tip on dishes, my hamster tips hers over often!
 I'm going to get a Chin spin when the Kit is a year, I read that before that is dangerous as youngsters have no idea they've overdone it. A bit like me at times lol.

     14) I've had a lot of tooing and froing on this one.
Unless an animal is naturally solitary as in the case of my Hamster, Chameleon, European Eagle Owl or a natural recluse as in a feral cat who chose to move into my home for last 3 years of life.
I've always believed where possible in having same species companionship as well as me.  So my original plan was to have 2 litter mate Chinchilla, after much research though I have come down to having 1.
 Though to be honest I'm still in two minds about 2.
I know Chinchilla live in herds, but with ample space and opportunity to get away. As a human being I know that being in too close proximity escalates niggles to crisis.
 I've been told that each half of my cage is ample for 2 adult Chinchilla.
I have in my own life lived in a bedsit which was deemed big enough for a human being. I now have a 1 bedroom flat but of all my homes I much preferred the space of my 3 bed house.
So my initial issue is, half my cage may be ample for 2 but is it really enough for 10 years of life in the same space? There will be playtime in a Chin safe area but still the majority of life is in a cage.
  I'm also wondering if in fact my half cage is not a bed sit but a 1 bedroomed flat (or more) for 1 Chinchilla. If I did have 2 in the whole cage who got on ok, but down the road wanted a divorce, could I just split the cage up and have 1 Chin in each half?
 I appreciate some Chinchilla like playmates but not roommates.
 I know that I would find it very hard to re home a much loved pet if there was a serious falling out. That said, I really do want to give any creature in my home the best life that it can have. If that means 2 Chinchilla and my emotions being ripped apart 2, 5, 8 years down the road because they won't live in the same house let alone cage. Then I'm the human being, I have to deal with it.   
  I'd really appreciate thoughts and advice on this matter, I have to make a decision by 20th Feb.
 By the way a second similar sized cage or putting 1 Chinchilla in a second room is not an option, due to lack of available living space. 

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General Chat / Expectant Mum to new Kit questions
« on: February 12, 2016, 04:36:07 PM »
Hi,
   All being well my new Kit arrives 22/23rd Feb, so these are the things I need to resolve before then.
This is the cage I bought AVENTURA Tall ALL METAL CHEWPROOF Rat Ferret Chinchilla Degu Large Cage 1152 http://r.ebay.com/ERbCSA
I took the metal ladders out straight away. I've covered the hole (using a glass chopping board (new) that covers the hole with a wide margin all round) between the two levels while the Kit is small so that I'm only using the top half for now.
Are the bar spacings ok for a new kit?
There is a built in metal shelf 1/2 way across the cage, 1/2 way up. I've taken this out so I can have wooden shelves and fleece hammocks. Was this a wise move?
I thought it could go back when the little one is older.
How much headroom is needed between shelves?
I have measured the top section of the cage and if I had ledges 6" up from base.
Each shelf being 5" long x 3" wide (deep) with a 6" gap between shelves.
6" above first set of shelves, 5" long shelves, 6" apart filling in gaps of first shelves like brickwork.
I would need 28 shelves to do both ends of cage and 22 shelves to do the 2 sides.
Is this too much shelving? Should I have longer shelves?
I'd have fleece hammocks across the open spaces in the middle which would be accessible from the shelves around the sides.
I'm going to use fleece to cover the metal base pan, what do I stuff it with? I will keep a check on this for chewing.
What recommendations for a water bottle?
I have organic Hyacinth and Sisal mat and a Seagrass mat and ceramic tile and small granite slab to provide different textures to walk on.
I do pottery at Adult Ed and plan to make them a "mountain range" to go on the base of the cage.
It would be a square with entrance/exit holes and ventilation holes.
On top and sides of this base would be something that looks like half coconut shells (though bigger, to accommodate an adult Chinchilla) most turned so that the opening is on base, though some turned up so they could be curled up in. All would have plenty of ventilation holes.
They would be joined together, including piled on top of each other but leaving nooks and crannies, for littles paws to reach into.
All glazed in Human safe glaze that can go in microwave/dishwasher.
I want to enrich their play environment as though they were in the wild as far as possible.
For now I have a seagrass cube to use as a house.
I am planning on making houses in pottery class too, 2 so a choice of sleeping places.
Again ventilation holes all around. These would be secured in several places to the cage bars to prevent being hurled around.
I have a variety of safe balls, small shapes that can be safely thrown around. Safe wood disks, logs and sticks of varying thickness in a variety of woods.
Also cardboard tube covered with sisal.
I have a thermometer to check temperature/humidity and an air conditioning unit.
A set of scales with a jug large enough for an adult Chinchilla.
A Pyrex glass bowl as a dust bath and a hay rack for securing to the cage side.
Have I missed anything? Do I need to revise anything?
 I'm having only one Kit because I'm concerned about potential divorce down the road (Chinchilla's not mine, I'm widowed).
I am out for a maximum of 12 hours a week and that only during 8:30 am - 4:00pm so I can be with little one a lot.
Sorry for so many questions and so much detail. I just want to be the very best Chinchilla Mum I can be
:blush2:
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General Chat / Hi from Kent UK
« on: February 12, 2016, 03:38:20 PM »
Hi all,

  Hope I'm posting this in the right place  :blush2:
 I've hand reared and shared my life with many creatures
over the years including Dogs, Cats, Fish (goldfish, tropical and marine),
Rabbits, Hamsters, Guinea Pigs, Rats, Chameleons, Bearded Dragons, Chickens,
Goats, European Eagle Owl, Harris Hawks, Barn Owls, Mice, Shrews, Voles, Hedgehogs,
Sparrow, Jay.
   Hopefully on 22/23rd Feb I will become Mum to a Chinchilla Kit, a yet gender and
colour unknown.
  Like any prospective new Mum, despite my previous experience I'm nervous  ::wacko::
 I want to be the very best Mum I can, so I've been reading lots, that said I've still got
some questions  :)

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