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Title: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 05, 2008, 06:54:51 PM
I got a beautiful TOV Violet Female today and she has the oddest tail. It is completely curly, somewhat like a pig tail. It is adorable. Does anyone else have chins with curly tails? Is this something that the kits might get, as well? It is so cute!
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Abby W. on January 05, 2008, 07:51:43 PM
Yes, most of my chins have curly tails.  They are a sign of good health.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 05, 2008, 08:38:15 PM
Most of my chins tail curl, but they don't curl as tight as a coil.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: KCchins on January 07, 2008, 10:22:49 AM
A curly tail is a genetic trait.  The offspring may very well have curly tails.  Curly tails are not desirable on the show table because they often rest upon the fur and cause fur damage. 
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 07, 2008, 10:32:34 AM
Yes, I have noticed this. I have a hard time finding chins down here. I am hoping I did not over pay for her! She was a bit expensive!
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Debbie.nl.ca on January 09, 2008, 07:38:02 PM
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Yes, most of my chins have curly tails.  They are a sign of good health.
A genetic defect, and can rub the fur as is curls up along side the butt, not good.
I have never heard that it's a sign of good health at all Abby, where did you get that from?
May look ::nod:: cute but most breeders would not breed a chin with a curly tail.
They ussually end up in the pet shop for pet only chins.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: mikasauntie on January 09, 2008, 07:50:50 PM
ok, I'm confused now...sometimes Ari's tail is curled up and sometimes its just hanging out there way behind her.  Is this curly tail you're all talking about ALWAYS curly?

It is awfully cute when its curled up. 
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Abby W. on January 10, 2008, 08:04:34 AM
My vet told me that a curly tail is a sign of good health.  I am not sure why exactly....
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 10, 2008, 03:48:39 PM
Then I definitly over paid. Do you think I could pair her with a high quality standard male to maybe produce a good breeder?
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Leslie on January 10, 2008, 05:20:24 PM
Are they called corkscrew tails?  I have a chin with one and yes it's cute, but he is definitely not good quality.  A super good pet though!
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 10, 2008, 05:40:40 PM
I had never seen it before, so I didn't think anything of it. I saw on her pedigree where there were no visible standards on it. For that reason, I wasn't going to breed her with anything other than standard. Everything else about her is great. Her fur quality is good (especially for so many mutations in the line). She is large and blocky. The only thing is the tail. She has such beautiful genes that I thought pairing her with a high quality standard male would improve the quality of the kits. Of course I do understand that when breeding, we don't want to pass on ANY undesireable traits. I just hate that I spent the amount I did for a chinchilla with the genes I wanted, but apparently has a slight deformity. Of course she is still a great pet.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Leslie on January 11, 2008, 03:38:58 PM
It's strange, the things considered "deformities"....... it's a good thing chinchillas can't understand English or they'd have a lot of self-worth issues  ::)  Did someone somewhere along the line decide that wasn't a good trait because it wasn't common?  I suppose ruffling the fur up is what did it.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Debbie.nl.ca on January 11, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Yes it can damage the pelt and not good for sale.
I believe it to be a pinched nerve or some small spinal problem.
I have a neighbour that had a female with a curly tail, and one day she got stuck between the wall and bed leg.
She was having problems moving her legs after they got her out and took her to the vet.
Exrays showed no breaks and the vet figured she's stained, tore, or pulled muscles trying to get free and should be ok in a few days.
She was, but her really cork screwed tail staightened out. Been straight ever sence.
And they named her Piglet because of the tail, now they have to explain the name, where as before it was very obvious. ;D
There is a thread were Jo ann spoke about it too.
I would not breed a curly tailed chin just incase it was a genetic defect that could be passed on.
It may look cute but how do we know it's not causing them some discomfort, or it could be an injury during birth.
To may unanswered questions to risk it for me.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 11, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
It is a corkscrew, but I have noticed that when she is laying on her side, her tail is straightened out. I thought it was her cagemate from across the room due to the straight tail. When I started talking in my chinnie voice (my variation of baby talk) she popped right up and curled her little tail up. So I know it isn't stuck like that.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Abby W. on January 11, 2008, 11:22:17 PM
OK, I misunderstood what you were describing.  My chins have tails that curl up, but not the corkscrew shape.  Mine all sit curled over kind of like an akita dog's tail does, only of course a chin's tail is lower on its body.  I have never had a problem with their tails messing up their fur though.  Is this really a common problem?  I have also not noticed the curly tailed chins uncurling their tails, so I am not sure what the deal is now.  Is any curl a problem?  Or is some curl ok?
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 12, 2008, 12:34:58 AM
Mine has a tight corkscrew tail, that apparently has the ability to straighten out. The majority of the time it is curled all the way up and it rests on the fur directly above the tail causing what looks like an indention. When I groom her, the hair goes right back into place, so I don't know if I would necessarily consider her deformed. I would think it would be considered a deformity if the tail was stuck in that position. I dunno... :doh:
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: KCchins on January 12, 2008, 08:25:25 PM
Some curl is OK as long as it doesn't touch the fur on their back.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: ChillinChinchillas on January 13, 2008, 09:38:47 AM
Thank you so much everybody! ;)
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: KCchins on January 13, 2008, 10:26:30 AM
Mine has a tight corkscrew tail, that apparently has the ability to straighten out. The majority of the time it is curled all the way up and it rests on the fur directly above the tail causing what looks like an indention. When I groom her, the hair goes right back into place, so I don't know if I would necessarily consider her deformed. I would think it would be considered a deformity if the tail was stuck in that position. I dunno... :doh:

On the show table she would be marked down if the tail rests on fur.  Doesn't matter if the fur goes back into place when groomed. 
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Debbie.nl.ca on January 14, 2008, 01:04:51 PM
Yes it seems some are confused about what a curl is.
Their tail should be "C" shaped some of the time, and arc toward their backs, but a cork screw is what we refere to as a curly tail. ::nod::
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Brazilnut on June 09, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
Does anyone have a picture they'd like to share? I'm curious as to what the curly tail looks like!  :)
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Jenova on June 11, 2008, 05:38:29 PM
Ah ha! Now I finally know why Cheech was in the pet store. I always wondered because she has amazing quality of fur and all the right proportions, it was her tail. Chong is a lovely pedigree Violet whom my boyfriend paid a lot for (he won't tell me how much) of course I don't have his certificates because he was sold as a pet.
I love her curly tail, I run my finger along it to straighten it and it pings back. ;D

Edit: Just got a new PC so when I get my phone hooked up to this one I'll share a picture of her tail.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: chinclub on August 28, 2008, 04:41:52 PM
I finally found my disk of chinchilla pictures and can post a pic of a curly tail.
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Debbie.nl.ca on August 29, 2008, 08:56:20 AM
I still think it's cute  ;)
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: Deeliteful on August 31, 2008, 07:37:40 AM
OH wow I have never seen a chin with a tail like that . it is cute .
Title: Re: Curly Tail
Post by: chinclub on August 31, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
Cute, yes....but a nightmare at shows!!  ::)