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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: May 02, 2013, 03:09:15 PM »
::silly::  Chinchillas do not respond to surgery well at all.   :::(((   There are so many different complications that can happen.   :-\   The only way I would put one of mine through surgery would be IF that little one's life were at stake and there were no other possible options that would save it's life.   Over the pas 20+ years, I have heard more chinchilla owners say they would never do it again ... usually because a 'complication' from the surgery or an after affect from it caused the little one to die.

Each of us has to decide for ourselves what chances we are willing to take with the life of these precious creatures.  It is never an easy decision.  One thing you might want to question your vet about is: "How many of these surgeries have you done? " and "What was the final outcome?"  I would even ask if you could talk to some of the other chin owners that he had done surgery on their chinchillas.  It's always best to be safe rather than sorry.  A vet with a good surgical record on chinchillas should not refuse your request.  If he does ... I would ask myself ... What does he have to hide?

Hope this helps.
 ::wave::  Jo Ann

PS Keep us posted!

I posted this before I realized you already had him neutered.   I am not a vet, but I have had 20 + years with chinchillas.  I can only give you my personal opinion as to what I would do ... according to the experiences I have had with chinchillas over the years.  (I have had over 200 chinchillas at the same time over many years.)  I always found it a good thing to use the Critical Care and/or  acidophilus  after a surgery or during an illness or injury.  Do keep in mind the critical care and/or  acidophilus needs to be kept refrigerated once it has been opened.   And it needs to be given halfway between any doses of antibiotic or pain medication.   Surgery and the pain medication and antibiotics work against a chin to have a normal digestive progress.  The normal digestive system is a must for a chinchilla.  Antibiotics will kill all bacteria ... the bad and the good ... the antibiotic does not know the difference in them.  The 'good' bacteria is often called 'flora' and is necessary to properly digest the food.   The good bacteria or 'flora' needs to be replinished on a regular basis, but can not be given at the same time or close to the same time as an antibiotic or the will cancel each other out and it will be as if they have been geting nothing.   If the food is not being properly digested you will usually find smaller, dryer poops and they will continue to decrease in number.  Because of this, the system becomes stopped-up and the chin feels 'full' and not hungry and will quit eating.  Once this happens, it can cause some major problems.  The chin can literally die of hunger because he thinks he fills 'full', when in reality, he is stopped up or constipated.  Judge by the ammount of food he is eating on a daily basis, not just the poop at the bottom of the cage.  Something to think about.   You say the male is in the bottom half of the cage ... If you have your male in the bottom half of the cage and the female and her kit in the top half of the cage, unless you have a solid pan between the two levels, to catch the mom and kit's poop and pee ... much of the poop/feces you are seeing in the bottom is probably from the mom and the kit.  Also, keeping his area clean is a must ... if there is no solid divider between the two levels ... the pee/urin from the mom and kit are contanimating the lower level. 

I would give him Alfalfa hay at this time, he needs the extra nurishment it will provide him.
thanks for post I done a lot of research before I went ahead with his neutering got a very experienced vet who does chinchillas regularly also spoke to a few breeders who has neutered lots of their males and in there opinion is a lot safer these days touch wood  :) he is in the bottom half of the cage for now  with a nice clean comfortable fleece with wooden toys food and hay n water the cage is separated by a wood shelf so poo and wee can not land on him or go anywhere in his cage, I will do everything I can by the book and hopefully he well feel better in a couple of days but I will keep an eye on how much he's eating and get some critical care if need be.
I do think ive thought this through he was miserable as sin on his own and the baby is a girl so I couldn't of even got him a male for company so in my opinion it was the best option for him.

Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: May 02, 2013, 02:55:26 PM »
As long as he's eating hay and his fecal output seems to be normal (is not small and hard or scant) I wouldn't worry too much about it. The trauma from the surgery and possibly the medications can cause him to eat less. If you notice constipation you can try supplementing with mashed pellets but I still recommend Critical Care or something like it if that happens, and definitely contact the vet if that happens.
As far as the pellets themselves changing them now can potentially make the problem worse and is best done when the chinchilla is healthy. As far as letting him out I found this article that you might find helpful:
http://chinchillachronicles.com/chinchilla_castration.html

Thanks for reply he seemed a little better tonight seen him drinking  his hay has defnitley been eaten he seemed to be going off his pellets even before the op, I will ask for some critical care if I  think he's constipated and I will hold off changing the pellets mum seems to be eating n drinking plenty :) and baby is now 74gr :) just want dad back to normal  :( I will keep you posted

Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: May 02, 2013, 04:44:31 AM »
do you think he's got bored with these pellets and should I try buying some different and mixing them in with his old to see if its them he;s gone off or just mite be all the upheaval he's had? thanks kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: May 02, 2013, 04:16:51 AM »
Hi baby is now 70gr and mum is eating and drinking well  :) chico the dad had his operation on Tuesday he was alert and looked like normal when I picked him up he's pooing fine but doesn't seem to be eating many of his pellets, he seemed to go off his pellets just before lucy gave birth hes heating hay and the half of bitesize shredded wheat, ive been giving him his pain relief twice a day, do I need to mix his pellets with water and try feeding him that way? when do you think its ok to let him out for a play?

Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 30, 2013, 01:03:08 PM »
Thanks again  :) chico came out of the operation great I put him in the bottom half of the cage on some fleece and he started eating his hay im not getting him out for a run tonight and ive took out his climbing things (he still has wooden toys to chew) the vet gave me something for the pain I asked for some critical care and she said I shouldn't need it and call her if hes not eating tomorrow but hopefully hel be fine fingers crossed im soo pleased he came out of the operation now just want him back to normal quickly as poss I will keep you posted.

Kay.

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 29, 2013, 02:41:17 PM »
thanks i can't pair him with another male as ive been told they may fight with 2 females in the same room (now where else for them to go) i think the best thing allround is to get him neutered then he can hopefully go back in with mother and daughter and be happy again ive phoned around and got a vet that specialises in chinchillas in another town but not too far away we go 10.30 am so wish me lots of luck im quite stressed atout it  :(

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 29, 2013, 05:09:50 AM »
i'm worried about the most is what to do with dad do i get him neutered or keep him seperate cage next to mums and daughter, and if i put him back in the top of the cage with mam after 10 days will he be ok as it is only half the size what they are both used to (i halved the cage so mum was whith baby in a smaller cage just one shelf 3" from floor so both mum n baby can get on) ? advice anyone please  :)

Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 28, 2013, 05:34:52 AM »
aww love the video soo cute  ;)

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 28, 2013, 05:27:51 AM »
Thanks jo ann thats a great help  :) the thing i'm worried about the most is what to do with dad do i get him neutered or keep him seperate cage next to mums and daughter, and if i put him back in the top of the cage with mam after 10 days will he be ok as it is only half the size what they are both used to (i halved the cage so mum was whith baby in a smaller cage just one shelf 3" from floor so both mum n baby can get on) ? Thanks again for the great advice.

Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 27, 2013, 03:25:29 PM »
Hi thanks for advice but i put fresh hay and pellets in daily, i let him out tonight again for a good hour loads of poos so i think he must be eating let mum out with him he seeemed fine just havnt seen him eat his pellets maybe hesz eating them when im not about, I dont no whether to gethim neutered or just put him in a cage next to mum and baby i just dont no whether to risk the operation for him to be with mother and baby im pretty sure its a girl  ;) i will double check when a bit bigger. She is now 55 grams so put on ten in four days is that good? thanks again Kay :)

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 27, 2013, 04:51:40 AM »
Hi i let him out for about 3/4 hour last night with his dust bath and he's pooing loads  :) so he must be eating something he loves his hay but his pellets dont seem to be going down though, I will keep you posted and weigh him daily i weighed him last night so i will have more idea in a couple of days. On a more positive note baby and mum seem to be doing okay the baby has gone up to 52grams last night so thats a relief  :::grins:: Thank you for your help you have been brilliant  ;)  oh I'm looking for a double cage to buy so he can be next to them in the same cage but seperated if you no what i mean, bye for now  :)
 Kay

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 26, 2013, 05:37:45 PM »
no they are not side by side we've just had to do something quick and half the cage so mum n kit are in top and dad is in bottom i had him out tonight for an hour and actually tried him with syring (sorry about spelling) feed crushed pellets and warm boilid water he wasnt too bad had a bit of it then ran round the room he seems fine but i still dont think hes eating his pellets like he should he has been out with mam and i held the baby and he come over and seemed pleased kissing mam and having a good sniff of baby but had to really watch him incase any funny business  :) not! i will try and sort two cages side by side thanks agein kay  ;) oh and the baby has gained shes now 52grms  ;)

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 26, 2013, 06:44:43 AM »
ok thanks the dad seems to be off his food hes ate some hay but doesnt look like hes eating the pellets :( i bought him some toys for his cage and let him see the mum and baby supervised of course as i no how quick the deed can be done he was out for a run o n his own (me there)for about half an hour and seemed ok then. I dont no wether to get him neutered or let him stay single im worried on both accounts dont no what to do for the best  ::)

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 25, 2013, 03:00:56 PM »
ive weighed it tonight and 49gr now so added 4 in 48hrs i let the female out for a bit also she was eager to get out  :)

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New Births / Re: mam just gave birth help
« on: April 25, 2013, 04:46:17 AM »
Thanks I'll try not to get stressed i will be happy when i no the baby is getting milk  :)

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