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Q & A / Re: Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 22, 2008, 02:37:15 PM »
I figured one would be boss, just worry about there interactions. There is a somewhat big room for them to play in, Silver hasn't been in it for a LONG time but unfortunatly I have a problem with neutral ground. There is the utility room and my bedroom, both of which I would definatly not suggest for either one of them. Mine is a disaster I am slowly repairing and there is alot on the floors and such that she could get into or get really hurt by. Utility room should be obvious, dryer, washing machine, furnace etc. I know scents stay around for a long time but left with little choice, read that bathrooms are a bad idea for something like that. The only 2 bathrooms I have that arn't chinchilla smelling is the upstairs one with a tub and such and the one on the second floor which is about the size of a large phone booth. They seem to run around, Silver doesn't chase Amy long but whenever she gets the drop on her she moves like she is going to bite but Amy just kind of runs away and hides for a short period before coming out and hopping around, trying to find a way over the cage thing we have covering the exit of the room. When they have interactions, meaning Amy let me pick her up and my mother has silver (Silver fights to not be picked up but once you have her she is great and refuses to let you put her up or set her down till she decides it's time) and they will sniff and touch noses but silver will put her head up to Amy's forehead and, without seeing her mouth, acts like she is trying to bite. Is that normal?

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Q & A / Chinchilla problem - More family related
« on: January 21, 2008, 04:20:55 PM »
I have mentioned my father in several other posts but I need help making him see what he is doing because he isn't listening to me or my mother. Amy and Silver are in his room, Amy has been in his room since we got her but I go in and see her. Everything was OK till a few weeks ago when he decided he was going to pick her up whether she wanted it or not. He chased her around the cage till he caught her, getting her to pee on him in the process. He laughs as he does it and when he catch's her she shakes, and still does it. She has slowly started to dislike me also and I worry that she is viewing his actions as ones I do. I have picked her up twice but after she out and literally climbed up my shirt a bit. He says he will stop doing it but then picks it up a few days later and I really need help because I worry that she will be scared forever.

She still kind of stomps her way into my feet but will run from my hand if I move it beside her and bit pretty hard twice today while I was scratching around her ears, which she has never done. When my father opens the door and sometimes when he gets near she starts barking at him and if he moves his hand close to her she gets up like she is preparing to pee and if he continues she will on him which makes him grab her.

I don't want to have to get rid of her but if I have to I want her to go to a good home, she is the sweetest thing in the world. I want something that either I can hand to him or make him read so he knows what he is doing is traumatizing her. Please, any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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Q & A / Re: Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 18, 2008, 06:54:49 AM »
Day 2 out together.

Well we let them come out of there cages at the same time, they both jumped onto the chair to get to the floor without paying attention to eachother. They ran looking around and then it started, there was never biting but every time Silver would see Amy she would charge her and try to jump on her, amy of course seeing the chin almost double her size charging would jump and run where silver would give about a 3 foot chase before stopping and hopping around only to do it again about 3 minutes later. My only problem is Amy has had some fur slip, not alot but a little. What should I look for to see if they might be compatible in the same cage? I am unsure and think they are doing pretty well together right now, am going to let them out together every night for a little while.

Thank you.

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Q & A / Re: Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 17, 2008, 06:44:14 AM »
Ok this isn't really an update but a question that will really need to be answered at the end, just want to get everything ready. I need bedding and a good cage for both of them. I kind of like some of the larger cages, like the ones from qualitycages.com, but not sure if they are really that good. Any suggestions for cage and bedding would be appreciated. I noticed that carefresh is being pushed away by chin owners due to it causing blockages but don't know a whole lot, right now my cages have wire bottoms with a tray under the wire, using dustless scentless cat litter for the little ones. They can't get to it but I know I can't use cat litter when they are sitting right on it. Thank you for any advice given.

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Q & A / Re: Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 16, 2008, 07:20:17 PM »
Ok, first day I let them out seems to have gone good.

They ran around looking around, sometimes touching noses but when there noses touched they jerked back and just hopped around the room. Near the end of the 20 minutes I heard one of them squeek from behind something and they both shot out, one right behind the other for a short time before they hid behind different people. Amy has some fur slip but no blood and no indication that she was bit. There was a pinky finger tip size of fur that was loose but other then that they did well. And that at the end when they were both starting to slow down and show signs they wanted to go back for rest.

Any idea's what it might have been and anything I may have done wrong?

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Chit Chat / Re: My mom has cancer
« on: January 16, 2008, 01:39:34 PM »
I just saw this post and wanted to try and give words of advice. Most of my family has passed through cancer but the best thing to do is to keep as happy as you can around them, give them hope, pray for them, keep them in the best mood possible. Through positive thought and reinforcements the evils of sickness and disease can be overcome and the recovery and healing can become to take foot.

Take what the people suggest here seriously as they have had good experiences but what she needs most is the love of family and never give her a doubt, always think positive. Sickness and disease are tests that we must overcome, and through positive thinking and faith the test will be complete and everyone can look forward to long lives with the person.

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General Chat / Re: Facebook Pet Profiles
« on: January 16, 2008, 01:15:29 PM »
Facebook is a social site, it is part of the mass of them that came out about 4 or so years ago and continues to be used today. I personally dislike all sites like it due to issues and problems faced by friends of mine.

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Q & A / Re: Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 15, 2008, 09:29:21 PM »
When they move in together we plan to get a new cage that neither has been in. I was at school tonight and got home to a message, that Amy, the new chinchilla, was moving around the room sniffing calling out and we are unsure why. We assume, and you know where that can get you sometimes, she was calling for silver but not sure. So do you suggest letting them play together now or let them sit side by side for a week or so? They sniffed each other's noses and up to the top of the head with no biting, a little static charge sent them back to each of us. The first time we let them see eachother we were holding them half expecting there to be a fight and one of us being bitten. They sniffed for a few seconds and then started looking around like nothing happened. The second time we were holding they sniffed and sniffed and were checking eachother out till the static charge happened. When we put the two cages together on sunday, it's literally been only 2 days, they stuck there noses through the cages and sniffed for a good hour, hour and a half and then went about there cages like it was nothing. I have yet to hear an aggressive sound from either one and, strange enough, Amy has stopped barking peeing on my dad. He can touch her for a few seconds before she bolts off, me I put my hand in she literally hugs it, puts her head on my knuckles, and closes her eyes like she wants to go to sleep.

I am assuming this is good but I am unsure as this is the first time I have done this and my cousin, who breeds them, uses a method that i can't seem to get her to describe.

So going to break down what is going on and would like an answer about trying them out together, all 3 family members who they know would be around just incase a fight were to break out. Do I let them out together for super supervised playtime, 10 to 20 minutes? There attitudes towards eachother have yet to be negative and has been neutral, outside Amy running around the room she is in calling out for something. She did it for all 30 minutes of her out time, I was not there so can not 100% verify this. This is what i was told.

Thank you for all the help.

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Alright, here is an update. She has started to eat the pellets and the treats I finally convinced my father that more then 1 treat a day is really bad. Had to show him why it is bad and vet info about it. She gets 1, maybe 2 pieces of papaya a day or a raisin. Only started giving her treats again when she was eating the pellets and the hay/alfalfa again. She actually has warmed up ALOT since we brought her home, she was actually a little fearful of women when we got her and when I opened the cage at the owners house she came right over and climbed on me. She is doing that again and has taking a liking to my mom, she rings the bell in her cage for my mom to come in and give her scritch's and she really gets into them to the point of rolling onto her side and showing her belly to get it scratched, actually a cute/funny sight. She loves everyone and everything but for some reason she just hated my dad from the beginning but now that I have him backing off a bit and only talking to her unless she comes to the front of the cage she has stopped barking at him when he gets near the cage. She still hates to be picked up but I expect that, I only pick her up when she literally leans out and puts her paws up my chest and sniffs my chin. Sorry for so much with little spacing but working on a few final papers, homework I missed, and trying to watch and talk to both chinchilla's so I know they arn't pissing all over eachother in there cages, to the point where the cages are close so they can sniff but not bite.

Thank you for the responses.

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Q & A / Working with 2 females trying to get them to accept eachother
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:15:43 PM »
Alright, I have Silver and Amy and they have been apart for a good bit of time. Amy came back from the vet about 4 weeks ago and was checked a little under weight but that was a bit due to the food she was being given before by a person who really didn't know 100% what they were doing. She has put on weight and is just as friendly as they come, except if you make like you MIGHT pick her up then she runs and hides. We have them in the same room together right now and the cages close but not touching and currently 3 inch's apart watching to make sure they can't bite fingers off. Any suggestions where I should go from here? They accidentually met one day when my door wasn't closed all the way and all they did was sniff eachother for a while then hop away but not super fast, is that a good sign?

I am concerned because Amy, who is basically a rescue chinchilla, seems to really like any company and anyone thing to pay attention to her and Silver is kind of...well spoiled. They seem to sniff eachother and never bark, make noise, or even act aggressive towards one another. Any suggestions would be a big help and, if I am allowed to, would like to post updates on the progress and everything I do so if I might be doing something wrong someone will catch me so I can immediatly change it.

Thank you for all the help that comes along. I love this place!  :)

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Q & A / Re: Chin upset because I moved his cage...
« on: January 13, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »
From my experiences, all year of them, leaving the window open for a nice gentle breeze is ok as long as they are not next to the window having the breeze go over them. As for the moving your chin might be a little out of it because the cage was moved from where they were used to it being. Silver used to do this up till about 4 months ago and the best thing to do is exactly what you are doing. Comfort the chin and reward it for coming out and just have patience. Best thing to do right now as the chin might be a little scared and unused to the cage being moved.

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Q & A / Re: hammock
« on: January 03, 2008, 11:04:50 AM »
Any update on where to get these hammock's? I am quite interested myself with the little one I have, the new little one.

Thanks

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Alright thanks, I just need to convince my dad to stop giving her treats. She drinks plenty of water, I took her into the vet who looked her over last week and said she was fine. I catch her drinking a good but of water from time to time so I don't think she is sick.

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Ok I find this to be a little strange. We got amy about 3 weeks ago as a sort of rescue and she is sweet, when she isn't pissing on my father who she HATES for some reason, and she was eating the food we gave her. She was on a mostly mauri diet with a charlie chinchilla mix since the owner was trying to switch her. She has fully switched to mauri which she just loved eating a good bit of it but now it seems like she is refusing to eat it. If we get the large pieces from the charlie chinchilla food, it's either alfalfa or a similiar, she snatch's it and eats it like she is starving. Any suggestions on maybe being able to tell easily or to find out if she is eating what she needs? I am very worried about her as she isn't doing much of anything like my little silver is doing.

Thank you and sorry for all the questions lol.

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General Chat / Re: Just a bit curious...
« on: January 02, 2008, 11:52:03 AM »
Wow, people have ALOT of pets lol.
1 black european hamster - Smudge (Joke is if he got out he would be a smudge in the carpet due to the cat(s)
1 teddy Bear hamster - The vet gave him the name bear as they wanted to put him in the records, kept it.
2 female grey chinchilla's - Silver (Senior) and Amy (young one). They are about 2 months apart in age.
1 Modern Siamese Cat - Samuel (Fat cat that is not only scared of the chinchilla but will shake and hide when he see's the chinchilla out (When we are carrying her))

Hmm, I need more pets to catch up to all of you. Maybe work on a 100 chinchilla herd in a seperate house that i can let out at times to play.....hmmm fluffy furry little carpet. I like that idea.  :::grins::


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